Japan discusses strike against North Korea
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13775754/
Japan is to vote to consider a "pre-emptive strike" (the article's words) against North Korean missile bases, in response to North Korea's missile launches around the 4th of July. The experts in the article don't rate Japan's air force as being up to the task in pilotry or materiel. Serious things being talked about here.
Update: I've been looking at Globalsecurity.org, for information on Japan's readiness. This link: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/jmsdf.htm
mentions casually, or not so casually, that
For Japan, which relies on foreign countries for the supply of almost all energy and food, the influence to national life is quite serious in case that maritime traffic is cut off. It can also be said that the impact to the world economy is significant in such case.
If they're discussing mixing it up with North Korea, then they should know that
The DPRK, with over 8,800 AA guns, combined with SA-2, SA-3, and SA-5, and handheld SA-7 and SA-16 surface-to-air missiles, has constructed one of the world's most dense air defense networks.
and that
In the mid- 1980s, the former Soviet Union supplied SA-3/GOA surface-to-air missiles to the DPRK. The SA-3 provides short-range defense against low- flying aircraft. In 1987, the former Soviet Union provided SA-5/GAMMON surface-to-air missiles that gave Pyongyang a long-range, highaltitude, surface-to-air missile capability.
They stress that air defence is a North Korean priority. Though they have many unworthy MiG-21s, the North Koreans apparently also do have dozens of MiG-23s, MiG-29s, and Chinese Fantan fighters.
The Japanese Air Self-Defense Force seems to have very little bomber capacity. They have several hundred fighters, including F-1s, F-2s, and F-15Js, some of which serve as fighter-bombers or carry air-to-surface missiles, and their navy has several dozen destroyers, but as far as carrying out this attack on North Korea, it seems it would largely fall to the US to do it. If I were Japan, I would talk less about it, but do more about preparing for it. Considering what a problem it would be for the world economy if Japan lost such a struggle, this is far, far more important than any Vietnam War. I hope our leaders here in Congress are paying a lot of god-blessed attention to this situation, and thinking clearly and critically about it. God help us if this goes wrong, because if there's one thing we know about Kim Jong Il and the North Koreans, it's that they couldn't give a f*** about our capitalist system, or about the suffering that such a disruption of that important little island friend Japan would cause us.

16 Comments:
Why weren't you a war nerd in high school? Then we'd have had more to talk about.
"Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction."
The first link you gave (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13775754/) does not mention Japan considering a strike.
They might be able to get in for the first strike, but long-term suppression of missile sites would require Uncle Sugar.
As NK likely has no troop transport capability, I am unclear as to how Japan could 'lose' the war. Personally, I don't think NK could devliver a nuke.
12:08 PM
Hmm... MSN seem to have changed the link. The article originally quoted the Japanese Defence Minister, Shinzo Abe, saying that they should think about a pre-emptive strike, followed by a Japanese expert saying that if the Japanese planes made it there, they'd never make it back.
No, North Korea is not supposed to be able to mount a nuclear warhead (thank God). What could happen, though, is that Japan could easily spend its air defence force on such a strike, leaving itself open to a retaliatory strike or terrorism by the North Koreans. Such problems, if unanswered by the US (and if answered by the US, this would represent a sobering escalation, which, again, we can't bolster with boots on the ground, since our army and marines are stretched in Iraq), could interrupt industrial supply chains to and from Japan. This would have a huge impact on our economy.
6:09 PM
I see. But I must correct myself: NK might be able to deliver a nuke by jet. MIGHT.
12:40 PM
More likely, they'll do it by low-tech terrorism, like by a cargo container or something. That's what I'd really worry about.
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